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this was after the election, so obama, president obama hadn't been sworn in yet and there was a meeting in the oval office and a lunch with the five presidents. definitely a rare opportunity to see a lot of history all in one room. >> host: have you ever counted up how many people up in the same room as those five presidents? >> guest: know so is very special. >> host: back to george h.w. and barbara bush. a lot of photos of them in here as well including one of barbara bush with her camera. >> guest: yeah, she was a really good photographer actually. she would photograph me with president h.w. bush and president george w. bush and send me the photos signed by can record time. she was amazing. >> host: here's another photo of mrs. bush, barbara bush. >> guest: yes, this was election evening 2004 very late at night. actually it might have been early in the morning. we had just learned that president bush was ahead mathematically to win the election. so the family decided it was time to celebrate with a conga line. >> host: how often would you alone, just you and the bush family? >> guest
this was after the election, so obama, president obama hadn't been sworn in yet and there was a meeting in the oval office and a lunch with the five presidents. definitely a rare opportunity to see a lot of history all in one room. >> host: have you ever counted up how many people up in the same room as those five presidents? >> guest: know so is very special. >> host: back to george h.w. and barbara bush. a lot of photos of them in here as well including one of barbara bush...
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you talk about four issues going into obama's second term. described them. >> dependency which is not just about welfare and food stamps and things like that but a general fundamental change in the way people react to each other in government, the debt which is self-explanatory, the problem is a lot worse than the lead manager in, surrender, foreign-policy chapter, it is not a neo conservative argument, more a reflection of how we believe our place in the world and what it is and the debt is inevitable for most of us and is about abortion for the most part. >> this book is being published in march. how long did you have to put the book together and were you thinking of obama's second term? what was the time line? >> i didn't think mitt romney would win but i put it together rather quickly. i have been thinking about it
you talk about four issues going into obama's second term. described them. >> dependency which is not just about welfare and food stamps and things like that but a general fundamental change in the way people react to each other in government, the debt which is self-explanatory, the problem is a lot worse than the lead manager in, surrender, foreign-policy chapter, it is not a neo conservative argument, more a reflection of how we believe our place in the world and what it is and the debt...
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throughout the 1970s. >> you talk about and mentoring barack obama. how is that a mentorship? >> great question. i had one source tell me he thinks them that weekly. i see david marinus says in his new book they got upwards of 15 times and i would imagine the source to be obama because i don't know where else marinus would've got that. i'm not doubting that. it could be. 15 times would be allowed. bill clinton says his mentor william fulbright. they would meet lengthy, long periods into late evening together. obama in his memoirs refers to frank by name 22 times and then refers dozens of other time. that's a lot. run that reagan never refers to his mentor one time. hillary clinton in her memoirs refers to john john, may be a half dozen times. you've got obama mentioning frank quite often. >> what was this event? >> the entirety of the 70s. they were introduced in the fall of 1970 and not all the way through the time obama left in 1979. obama talks about one of the last words of advice he sought out before you have to assert greater commercial davis, w
throughout the 1970s. >> you talk about and mentoring barack obama. how is that a mentorship? >> great question. i had one source tell me he thinks them that weekly. i see david marinus says in his new book they got upwards of 15 times and i would imagine the source to be obama because i don't know where else marinus would've got that. i'm not doubting that. it could be. 15 times would be allowed. bill clinton says his mentor william fulbright. they would meet lengthy, long periods...
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secondly, president obama, the transition. president obama agrees with anything that is deceiving. and redistribution. >> and we all want the same thing. and there is deep disagreement at the moment, and there's so much disagreement right now. the discussion really ideological points. one the best ways. and whether it can be many paths. and what we mentioned. and businesses, if i have a good one. and to be tactical, the question right now is whether -- pecan ground. >> quick question with regards to education. the nyu school of business. i see from that for there are a lot of international students. from personal experience, obviously doing something right by attracting foreign students and go back and implement the things we talked about. are we doing the right thing? why are they coming and while we not going to north korea to study? >> that is the great question. one of the great things about the united states, higher education, and study. that is one of the reasons, if what we talk about facing the home's opportunity to bring back the society you go to business school. doesn't
secondly, president obama, the transition. president obama agrees with anything that is deceiving. and redistribution. >> and we all want the same thing. and there is deep disagreement at the moment, and there's so much disagreement right now. the discussion really ideological points. one the best ways. and whether it can be many paths. and what we mentioned. and businesses, if i have a good one. and to be tactical, the question right now is whether -- pecan ground. >> quick...
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democrats took a both house of. 2008 barack obama was elected. the most liberal senator and he easily won the presidential election. that was supposed to be the permanent democratic majority. then two years later, there was this tea party, quote, unquote, revolution that happened and the republicans retook the house, picked up governorship, earve said, see, democrats they are out. it's going to be a permanent setback to the democrats. it was so permanent it lasted about two years. all right my point is that politics can change very quickly. even though we live in a 50/50 divided between red and blue. there are still millions of people who went from voting for barack obama to supporting candidates who were going make john boehner speaker of the house in a short period of time. many americans are not systemic political thinkers. they go by who they trust, who they like, they go by personality. they go by who think is credible and perceive as having a successful track record. when they see something that suspect working, in they view, they want a ch
democrats took a both house of. 2008 barack obama was elected. the most liberal senator and he easily won the presidential election. that was supposed to be the permanent democratic majority. then two years later, there was this tea party, quote, unquote, revolution that happened and the republicans retook the house, picked up governorship, earve said, see, democrats they are out. it's going to be a permanent setback to the democrats. it was so permanent it lasted about two years. all right my...
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obama, well i sort of answer your question. once again the united states is pressing the party to the visitor on the stronger party. this already have an expansion over preiden carteimproved the situation or not? are we doing it? yes. there you are putting it is forcing the palestinians to not use the tools they have as the weaker party to try to right the balance as the president apparently tried to press not using their criminal court is that going to improve the situation if israel is, if you cover them more they are going to be warm and fuzzy? i doubted. you can't stop them. but you possibly can do is say this use of u.s. money neither tax-free dollars, 501c3 or u.s. aid money, so it's hard to show how that is used for settlement, but that we will not allow. >> you can do anything like that ing ainst that basra salles. pof >> the lady on the left and the author of the first [inaudible] >> i'm sorry, i don't see you. >> sorry. i agree that the reality on the ground is a one state solution, and that's what it is. i think mayb
obama, well i sort of answer your question. once again the united states is pressing the party to the visitor on the stronger party. this already have an expansion over preiden carteimproved the situation or not? are we doing it? yes. there you are putting it is forcing the palestinians to not use the tools they have as the weaker party to try to right the balance as the president apparently tried to press not using their criminal court is that going to improve the situation if israel is, if...
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obama's four horsemen, as you can see. other pop -- apocalyptic. i think a lot of the books that are out have come out in the past few months have talked about america at a crossroads or america at a point where we have a big decision to make. david who is a terrific writer and spokesperson basically says the we have crossed that point. it is too late to avoid some of the disasters that we are facing. now we just have to buckle down and figure how to get through. >> the last book you have, you're holding a galley right here. >> holding a little one. this book is not even get out. this is our next big book coming in april. it's called the ultimate obama survivor get -- survival guide. this is a terrific read. very fine. also very practical. the first part of the book tells us all the terrible things we're facing under a second term abroad, and the second half of the buck is a very practical survival guide. everything from how to buy gold coins to how to stop your house -- stockier house of food and water down to buy a gun and what ammunition to stac
obama's four horsemen, as you can see. other pop -- apocalyptic. i think a lot of the books that are out have come out in the past few months have talked about america at a crossroads or america at a point where we have a big decision to make. david who is a terrific writer and spokesperson basically says the we have crossed that point. it is too late to avoid some of the disasters that we are facing. now we just have to buckle down and figure how to get through. >> the last book you...
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president obama said he's a diplomat. it was only after weeks and weeks as the situation spiraled out of control increasingly, where one of the wives swallowed rat poison because she became a new martyr and was convinced raymond davis to be treated well. ultimately the obama administration went to the pakistani government and sabrina davis is with the cia. there's got to amount of the country. in march of 2011, he was ultimately released from prison after what was blood money was paid, where the guns that the families were paid over $2 million in a massive swipe away his charges and he was released to the united states and sent to an. the entire episode was a microcosm of how fraught u.s. tech any relations have become. >> what kind of work was he doing for the cia impact of and? >> he was doing a number of different things. the best i've been able to determine if reddy was principally doing in lahore was gathered intelligence about it roop kamlesh curry to you the, a militant group primarily based around the horror that
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the obama administration knew about it and actually reported about in the state department religious freedom, which is still the gold standard for human rights reporting. but at the time it was happening they said nothing and did nothing. so on our watch this has happened. the bush administration, two-thirds of the christians in iraq were driven out. we have it in the book about conversations we had about secretary rice at the time saying please protecting. again, we had 100,000 troops on thground and she said no, we cannot get involved. it's sectarian here. meanwhile, the united states had just installed a shiite government in iraq and was negotiating on the path of sunni leaders to get sunni appointments in the government. so it just rang true. >> it does seem as i listen because i'm being educated on this, some rights are more equal than others, right? in other words, if we're talking about universal concept or standard of let's say women's rights, then we can speak out against them. but it seems like there's been a shining a we're doing that with regard to religious liberty, that
the obama administration knew about it and actually reported about in the state department religious freedom, which is still the gold standard for human rights reporting. but at the time it was happening they said nothing and did nothing. so on our watch this has happened. the bush administration, two-thirds of the christians in iraq were driven out. we have it in the book about conversations we had about secretary rice at the time saying please protecting. again, we had 100,000 troops on...
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and i think one of the best things about barack obama being elected president is that now you can turn to a black child and say you really can be president. >> but do you really want to? [laughter] no thanks, we don't want that job. >> one of the ways to oppress somebody is to get them to oppress themselves. >> right. >> so freeing these images in the media from stereotypes is about freeing people from the shackles on their own imagination. >> it's interesting how obama himself has become a one man cultural war just by being who he is. not just what he durksz who he is. as you mentioned, it seems like we have abortion rights, cob that sense -- contraception, and yet we have the pretty strong advance of marriage equality and gay rights. can you kind of speak to that? what's going on there? >> i think it would be the other way around. >> yes. >> really, really good question. and so as we know, hardly anyone believed in gay marriage ten years ago, and now there's significant majority support in pretty much every community accept among white evangelical conservative christians. and where w
and i think one of the best things about barack obama being elected president is that now you can turn to a black child and say you really can be president. >> but do you really want to? [laughter] no thanks, we don't want that job. >> one of the ways to oppress somebody is to get them to oppress themselves. >> right. >> so freeing these images in the media from stereotypes is about freeing people from the shackles on their own imagination. >> it's interesting how...
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even in congress and the white house both president obama and members of congress have proposed that average gdp growth of zero point* 5%. we don't hear much about that. the both of them have proposed limits. you could say no to a trajectory but what do you think? should we have limits to how much we spend? the health care reform law has proposed the independent advisory board to be set up with 15 minutes and they would recommend ways to curb spending based on realignment and closure commission remember we had to close military bases is very hard for elected officials to make those decisions to close the military base for their own constituencies of a seated that responsibility to experts in congress had to agree or disagree. palace the model used for the independent payment advisory board. cannot change medicare eligibility raise premiums are cut benefits and if congress doesn't like any recommendations it doesn't have to agree with any of them but it would have to come up to find equivalent savings of its own. it was repealed in the u.s. house of representatives claims that the doc
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so when we see someone like newt gingrich running for president and he calls president barack obama the food stamp president, on one level he can say i'm talking about how more people went on food stamps during barack obama's presidency than any other president. you can dispute that figure or not, and some people have, but that is what he says he means there but there's another meaning on top of it, where black people are associated with welfare programs. welfare programs are considered undesirable. the term welfare is determined undesirable, and if you can connect a black president with the idea the is handing free stuff to people to get them to vote for him, that's an association that can work with voters. and indeed people, journalists who interviewed folks who voted in the south carolina primary where gingrich won the republican contest, said that idea was a strong one for them. that association was something they agreed with. so, we see even now politicians can use this coded language, reach the people they want to reach, but also be able to deny they're using that tactic because t
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and apparently the obama administration felt it would be unconstitutional for congress to provide too many limits on the president's power to conduct hostilities against libya. now where those are we don't really know. so the commander-in-chief clause is actually a very important constitutional provision. and logan's project i think is the first one to actually give it some legal purchase. what might've been the official meaning of the commander-in-chief clause. because windows was drafted at philadelphia, i think the only commander-in-chief bid on was george washington. they certainly did not have george iii in mind. they did not have even governors in mind. governors were also the heads of the militias in various states. those also not their goal. but instead their model, if they had one, they probably did, was george washington. one of the many things logan's book does in wonderful detail, it really does give you an idea, not just of the fact that george washington was universally exclaimed, but some of the reasons he was reasonable -- admired. he was not a successful general at an
and apparently the obama administration felt it would be unconstitutional for congress to provide too many limits on the president's power to conduct hostilities against libya. now where those are we don't really know. so the commander-in-chief clause is actually a very important constitutional provision. and logan's project i think is the first one to actually give it some legal purchase. what might've been the official meaning of the commander-in-chief clause. because windows was drafted at...
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. >> david harsanyi, author of "obama's 4 horsemen: the disasters unleashed by obama's reelection," thanks. .. >> scott spiker, he was a very young, at the time, navy pilot and the father of two, had a nice family started down in jacksonville, florida. why any interest in them? the initial starting interest. the time when he went missing in the red headlines. at bottom of this was kind of odd. why are they looking for in? why are they doing this? why are they doing this to make certain protocols are followed when something like this happens. if you think about this in terms of how i would think about it, 1994. i started to get more interested and interested in what was going on because i would you things here and there. people would just talk with me. i went back. and by the time i got to the end of the 90's the administration kept talking about it in the media. but going back and try to piece together the story and see what they're saying and what they want saying to read in my mind, the way my mind works is, these pieces of reformation are a mosaic starting to come together . you know, t
. >> david harsanyi, author of "obama's 4 horsemen: the disasters unleashed by obama's reelection," thanks. .. >> scott spiker, he was a very young, at the time, navy pilot and the father of two, had a nice family started down in jacksonville, florida. why any interest in them? the initial starting interest. the time when he went missing in the red headlines. at bottom of this was kind of odd. why are they looking for in? why are they doing this? why are they doing this to...
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that would come about a year after my, my trip to drc to do my basic reporting when president obama announced that 100 u.s. military special operations forces would go to the drc and neighboring countries to work directly with native armies to hunt and hopefully destroy the lord's resistance army. but when i was there three years ago, that announcement had yet to come, and the ingredients of that intervention were still sort of bubbling in the pot. so i looked at it. it was an unmade thing, and i asked myself could this, could this be a new -- it's not necessarily a new way of war. there have been plenty of armed interventions, plenty of armed interventions by and for humanitarian reasons. but could this represent a kind of military strategy is not the right word, but a grand strategy? an answer to the question what is america's role in the world postiraq? postafghanistan? could we leave a decade of bad war behind us and fight good warsesome now, there's going to be lots of caveats to that question. is u.s. military intervention in africa, to say nothing of congo, can that be a good war? the
that would come about a year after my, my trip to drc to do my basic reporting when president obama announced that 100 u.s. military special operations forces would go to the drc and neighboring countries to work directly with native armies to hunt and hopefully destroy the lord's resistance army. but when i was there three years ago, that announcement had yet to come, and the ingredients of that intervention were still sort of bubbling in the pot. so i looked at it. it was an unmade thing, and...
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., and have sections on president obama or arnie duncan, and at one point, i presented to an adviser in a fellowship i had including the writer, and he came up afterwards saying it was a stupid idea because the people and experiences in new orleans were so compelling and interesting on their own, and so i settled on the idea of structuring the book around three schools with one person preimminent in each. lori, aiden, and all of whom i met at different times in different ways. since writing the book was a journey for me, i wanted to talk about what i learned over the course of reporting and writing it, apart from the fact i would make a terrible teacher. [laughter] the first is that the -- i feel like the extremists and absolutists on both sides of the public conversation over school, form, and other issues dominate the debate, but their voices don't capture the needs and desires of those attending and working in the schools. i had covered education for long enough when i started working on the book to some degree, but i was really amazed by the extent to which the ideals and aspirat
., and have sections on president obama or arnie duncan, and at one point, i presented to an adviser in a fellowship i had including the writer, and he came up afterwards saying it was a stupid idea because the people and experiences in new orleans were so compelling and interesting on their own, and so i settled on the idea of structuring the book around three schools with one person preimminent in each. lori, aiden, and all of whom i met at different times in different ways. since writing the...
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and the war on religion that obama was waiting and so forth and so on. and the reality is, i mean, the first amendment to not emerge from the ether. it was not some intellectual exercise. it was as were the other amendments and the constitution and sells, specific responses to specific historical events. and in this but really it goes into many of those events. sort of grew and to the first night later. but as a writer, i think to try to prevent riding the present into the past, you have to be aware of your biases. and, as amy said, you don't have to hide the necessarily, but you have to be aware of them. he referred to the fact that i was a football coach and i did that for a few years after i dropped out of my ph.d. program in history. [laughter] and now was a defensive coordinator s small college, and we used to run the defense that had sort of a built-in weakness. it was great in many places, but there was an area of that defense that we were outnumbered by the offensive players. we ran the defense anyway and were actually quite successful, but we kn
and the war on religion that obama was waiting and so forth and so on. and the reality is, i mean, the first amendment to not emerge from the ether. it was not some intellectual exercise. it was as were the other amendments and the constitution and sells, specific responses to specific historical events. and in this but really it goes into many of those events. sort of grew and to the first night later. but as a writer, i think to try to prevent riding the present into the past, you have to be...
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if you look at exit polling, most americans believe the economy was so messed up by george bush that obama struggled mightily to overcome this horrible situation he inherited. the second reason is most americans believe republicans only care about rich people. and those are branding problems that the republican party has to to overcome. and it's hard to overcome it because you've got three obstacles; academia, hollywood and our major media, all of which are overwhelmingly liberal. when you say something, it's got to be interpreted through the filter of those three entities, and often it's been distorted. >> host: larry elder is our guest, this is booktv on c-span2 live from the los angeles times festival of books, campus of usc. mike's in fort worth, texas. hi, mike. >> caller: how's it going, larry? my -- pretty good. i'm a african-american democrat, but i agree with you one of the big problems in the african-american community is lack of fathers in the house. but i think, larry, when you say that, you kind of come off kind of harsh on black people. now, what's the reason behind the lack
if you look at exit polling, most americans believe the economy was so messed up by george bush that obama struggled mightily to overcome this horrible situation he inherited. the second reason is most americans believe republicans only care about rich people. and those are branding problems that the republican party has to to overcome. and it's hard to overcome it because you've got three obstacles; academia, hollywood and our major media, all of which are overwhelmingly liberal. when you say...
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he was in colorado and most people who want recreational pot voted for obama. the republicans have been talking about how they need to reach out to latinos and black people but i don't hear any of them talk about legalizing pot. also another thing is this. at the beginning of the year there was about 15 minutes on c-span and you had a man on that was pro and then you had a man on, a republican congressman from the heritage foundation again that was against pot, the legalization of pot. it was the same thing like today. i heard earlier on talking about how there are for limited government and yet these guys come out against legalized pot. >> host: thanks for your comments. we will get an answer from beau kilmer. >> guest: no, if you look at the latest polls a study done by pew that got a lot of attention a couple of weeks ago and it came out that 52% of the respondents approved of legalizing marijuana use. there has been a big change over time. there was another poll, gallup organization doing the same poll over time and we know that in the mid-90s if you look w
he was in colorado and most people who want recreational pot voted for obama. the republicans have been talking about how they need to reach out to latinos and black people but i don't hear any of them talk about legalizing pot. also another thing is this. at the beginning of the year there was about 15 minutes on c-span and you had a man on that was pro and then you had a man on, a republican congressman from the heritage foundation again that was against pot, the legalization of pot. it was...
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early on the obama administration. and he said in contrast to the wars in iraq and afghanistan where the united states has used a hammer, he said we, the obama administration, can use a scalpel. it was an idea i had that scalpel certainly applied a sos free. surgery without obligations. but we see that's not the case in a lot of places. so i thought i would take his analogy and make it a nice because nice fights are a lot messier. >> host: steve, california, you're on with mark mazzetti from "the new york times." >> caller: this. the united states has not declared war in over 70 years. the wars we thought, korea, vietnam, iraq, afghanistan have all been basically unconstitutional. we seem to have given up any a semblance of pretending to declare war, congress seems to have no stomach to declaring war but obviously no problem fighting them. i'm wondering whether or not you think that the militarization of the cia, potential conflict between the different agencies and the defense department might in fact said whether tha
early on the obama administration. and he said in contrast to the wars in iraq and afghanistan where the united states has used a hammer, he said we, the obama administration, can use a scalpel. it was an idea i had that scalpel certainly applied a sos free. surgery without obligations. but we see that's not the case in a lot of places. so i thought i would take his analogy and make it a nice because nice fights are a lot messier. >> host: steve, california, you're on with mark mazzetti...
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the war on religion that obama was waging in so forth and so on and the reality is, the first amendment didn't emerge from the east though. it wasn't some intellectual exercise. it was, as were the other amendments, the constitution itself specific response to specific historical events. in this book really goes into many of those events and supportive grew into the first amendment later. but, as a writer, a thing to try to prevent writing the president into the past to have to be aware of the biases and as amy said, you may not have to hide them necessarily but you have to be aware of them, referring to the fact that i was a football coach and i did that for a few years after he dropped out of my ph.d. program in history. and i was a defensive coordinator at a small college and i was on the defense that has sort of the built-in weakness. it was great in many places but there was an area of the defense that we were outnumbered by the offensive players. we were on the defense anyway and actually we were quite successful but we knew that. every single day we practiced so weakness would no
the war on religion that obama was waging in so forth and so on and the reality is, the first amendment didn't emerge from the east though. it wasn't some intellectual exercise. it was, as were the other amendments, the constitution itself specific response to specific historical events. in this book really goes into many of those events and supportive grew into the first amendment later. but, as a writer, a thing to try to prevent writing the president into the past to have to be aware of the...